Photographer Richard Choi and Academy Award-nominated filmmaker and photographer RaMell Ross discuss their use of moving image, unstructured narrative, and sequencing in relation to their projects on view at ICP in But Still, It Turns: Recent Photography from the World. The artists will be led in conversation by managing director of programs, David Campany.

Reserve your copy of the book But Still, It Turns, published by MACK, through ICP’s shop.

Watch and attend more conversations based on But Still, It Turns: Recent Photography from the World. Watch the Curators Talk with Paul Graham, and But Still, It Turns and the Photobook online featuring Rebecca Bengal, Emanuele Brutti and Piergiorgio Casotti, Gregory Halpern, and Vanessa Winship, and register to attend the other But Still, It Turns Conversations with Curran Hatleberg and Kristine Potter (July 7) and Stanley Wolukau-Wanambwa (July 21).

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About the Exhibition

Guest curated by photographer Paul Graham, But Still, It Turns features nine contemporary photographers that present images made in the 21st -century United States, working directly from life and reflecting a movement towards a lyrical documentary practice. Extending the tradition of Robert Frank, Walker Evans, Gordon Parks, and Diane Arbus, this work fits a notion of “photography from the world”—photography that resists both narrative arcs and the drama of photojournalism or staged photography, grappling instead with the world as it is, in all its tangle and wonder. The exhibition features work by Vanessa Winship, Curran Hatleberg, Richard Choi, Gregory Halpern, Piergiorgio Casotti and Amanuele Brutti, Kristine Potter, and Stanley Wolukau-Wanambwa. Reserve your timed ticket to see the exhibition in person at

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Speaker Bios

Richard Choi is an American artist. He received an MFA from Yale University in 2012 and a BFA from Art Center College of Design in 2009. In 2017 his work appeared in Alexander Nemerov’s book Experience, published by The Terra Foundation for American Art (Terra Foundation Essay Series Volume 4), in an essay titled “The Hushed Place: Richard Choi’s Trampoline (2011).” Richard Choi currently lives and works in Yonkers, NY.

RaMell Ross is a visual artist, filmmaker, writer, and liberated documentarian. His work has appeared in places like Aperture; Hammer Museum; Institute of Contemporary Arts, London; Museum of Modern Art; National Gallery of Art; and Walker Art Center. He has been awarded an Aaron Siskind Foundation Individual Photographer’s Fellowship and was a 2020 USA Artist Fellow. His feature experimental documentary Hale County This Morning, This Evening won a Special Jury Award for Creative Vision at the 2018 Sundance Film Festival and 2020 Peabody Award.  It was nominated for an Oscar at the 91st Academy Awards and an Emmy for Exceptional Merit in Documentary Film. RaMell holds degrees in Sociology and English from Georgetown University and is faculty in Brown University’s Visual Art Department. His work is in various public and private collections. 

David Campany is a curator, writer, and managing director of programs at the International Center of Photography, New York. His books include On Photographs (2020), A Handful of Dust (2015), Art and Photography (2003), Jeff Wall: Picture for Women (2011), Walker Evans: the Magazine Work (2014), and The Open Road: Photography and the American Road Trip (2014).


Image: RaMell Ross, Here, 2013. © RaMell Ross